Comments on: Please Don’t Let the Cloud Ruin SaaS http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/ BI, SaaS, travel and everything else... Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:14:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jean http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-606 Jean Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:01:17 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-606 hello i do not know where to write u are genius man i need some help i want ur email if it is possible i work on thesis about oepn source and i need to ask some questions about netbeans creation .please if u can help me. jean hello
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u are genius man
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i want ur email if it is possible
i work on thesis about oepn source and i need to ask some questions about netbeans creation .please if u can help me.
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]]> By: Data Integration: Your Cloud Strategy’s Silver Lining? « In(tegrate) the Clouds http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-599 Data Integration: Your Cloud Strategy’s Silver Lining? « In(tegrate) the Clouds Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:31:10 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-599 [...] enterprise software running on Amazon (IaaS). See this concise post by Roman Stanek on this topic: Please Don’t Let the Cloud Ruin SaaS. A true integration as a service solution must be designed for non-technical users and must be [...] [...] enterprise software running on Amazon (IaaS). See this concise post by Roman Stanek on this topic: Please Don’t Let the Cloud Ruin SaaS. A true integration as a service solution must be designed for non-technical users and must be [...]

]]> By: Brian Anderson http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-580 Brian Anderson Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:52:33 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-580 Roman’s assessment is spot on. It brings up the subject of what to do if a customer doesn’t know what they don’t know. And specifically, what’s the role of a traditional, on-premise SI integration partner. You may want to see my blog and Tweet, “How a SI Can Let the Sunshine Through the Cloud and Enjoy Ancho Chili Chocolate Ice Cream". This is an example of the how the SI can bridge the gap to SaaS, steady the course for SaaS (away from enterprise software) and enjoy the chili. http://tinyurl.com/y88vems. Brian Roman’s assessment is spot on. It brings up the subject of what to do if a customer doesn’t know what they don’t know. And specifically, what’s the role of a traditional, on-premise SI integration partner.

You may want to see my blog and Tweet, “How a SI Can Let the Sunshine Through the Cloud and Enjoy Ancho Chili Chocolate Ice Cream”. This is an example of the how the SI can bridge the gap to SaaS, steady the course for SaaS (away from enterprise software) and enjoy the chili. http://tinyurl.com/y88vems.
Brian

]]> By: dcunni http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-577 dcunni Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:46:03 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-577 Well said Roman. I think you could continue to build on the analogy in future posts. I posted some thoughts (and resources) on all things cloud here: http://cloudintegration.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/idc-updates-cloud-services/ More often than not I’m seeing “the cloud” defined with SaaS, PaaS, and IaaS as the key layers. The trouble is that IaaS (public and private clouds) are getting all of the attention right now and SaaS vendors (multitenant, web-based, easy to try/buy applications) are reacting by jumping on the cloud bandwagon. Similarly, “hosted” software vendors are now running on Amazon and trying to claim all of the historical SaaS benefits, when really it’s all about IT resource utilization and cost savings. Well said Roman. I think you could continue to build on the analogy in future posts. I posted some thoughts (and resources) on all things cloud here:

http://cloudintegration.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/idc-updates-cloud-services/

More often than not I’m seeing “the cloud” defined with SaaS, PaaS, and IaaS as the key layers. The trouble is that IaaS (public and private clouds) are getting all of the attention right now and SaaS vendors (multitenant, web-based, easy to try/buy applications) are reacting by jumping on the cloud bandwagon. Similarly, “hosted” software vendors are now running on Amazon and trying to claim all of the historical SaaS benefits, when really it’s all about IT resource utilization and cost savings.

]]> By: Rick Nucci http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-576 Rick Nucci Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:30:57 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-576 Excellent point Roman, made very concisely (wish I could do that :) ). This is a dangerous time whereby any old legacy software can be "cloud washed" by installing it on Amazon EC2. Too many people do this, and the industry will suffer as people realize that just pushing the enterprise software problem into another data center doesn't really save them any substantial money over the long term. -Rick Excellent point Roman, made very concisely (wish I could do that :) ). This is a dangerous time whereby any old legacy software can be “cloud washed” by installing it on Amazon EC2. Too many people do this, and the industry will suffer as people realize that just pushing the enterprise software problem into another data center doesn’t really save them any substantial money over the long term.

-Rick

]]> By: Software as Services mobile edition http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-575 Software as Services mobile edition Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:18:25 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-575 [...] EC2 or similar platforms as a new cloud-era take on what I used to call SoSaaS. As Gooddata founder Roman Stanek wrote yesterday, this is a backward step: ... a new way how to 'throw software over the wall' again. Many software [...] [...] EC2 or similar platforms as a new cloud-era take on what I used to call SoSaaS. As Gooddata founder Roman Stanek wrote yesterday, this is a backward step: … a new way how to 'throw software over the wall' again. Many software [...]

]]> By: Stefan Ried http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-574 Stefan Ried Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:28:42 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-574 Hi Roman, totally agree. The Infrastructure as a service IaaS is a totally different and smaller value prop than a SaaS application, or a managed Platform as a Service. Also see my blog reply quoting you on: http://www.stefan-ried.de/2009/10/02/saas-is-value-and-ec2-image-deployment-less/ Cheers Stefan Hi Roman,

totally agree. The Infrastructure as a service IaaS is a totally different and smaller value prop than a SaaS application, or a managed Platform as a Service.
Also see my blog reply quoting you on:
http://www.stefan-ried.de/2009/10/02/saas-is-value-and-ec2-image-deployment-less/

Cheers
Stefan

]]> By: SaaS is value, and EC2 image deployment less. | Stefan Ried http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-573 SaaS is value, and EC2 image deployment less. | Stefan Ried Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:23:59 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-573 [...] like to point you to an short but excellent blog post of Roman Stanek, entrepreneur and currently founder and CEO of the SaaS BI vendor Gooddata: Back in [...] [...] like to point you to an short but excellent blog post of Roman Stanek, entrepreneur and currently founder and CEO of the SaaS BI vendor Gooddata: Back in [...]

]]> By: Is social media making us dumber? | Kavis Technology Consulting http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-572 Is social media making us dumber? | Kavis Technology Consulting Fri, 02 Oct 2009 04:07:41 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-572 [...] 3. Please Don’t Let the Cloud Ruin SaaS (blog post here) [...] [...] 3. Please Don’t Let the Cloud Ruin SaaS (blog post here) [...]

]]> By: Mike Kavis http://roman.stanek.org/2009/10/01/please-dont-let-the-cloud-ruin-saas/#comment-571 Mike Kavis Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:51:42 +0000 http://roman.stanek.org/?p=397#comment-571 Not all SaaS is deployed on IaaS which means not all SaaS leaves the majority of security and compliance to the customer. Regardless, the buyer should know what they are buying and what they need to do to make their solutions meet their requirements. If you use solutions on IaaS, you should know that the provider can only secure the infrastructure and it is your responsibility to secure and be compliant with the data. Not all SaaS is deployed on IaaS which means not all SaaS leaves the majority of security and compliance to the customer. Regardless, the buyer should know what they are buying and what they need to do to make their solutions meet their requirements. If you use solutions on IaaS, you should know that the provider can only secure the infrastructure and it is your responsibility to secure and be compliant with the data.

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